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Jingo [PDF / EPUB] Jingo 'Neighbours hah People'd live for ages side by side nodding at one another amicably on their way to work and then some trivial thing would happen and someone would be having a garden fork removed from 'Neighbours hah People'd live for ages side by side nodding at one another amicably on their way to work and then some trivial thing would happen and someone would be having a garden fork removed from their ear'Throughout history there's always been a perfectly good reason to start a war Never so if it is over a 'strategic' piece of old rock in the middle of nowhere It is after all every citizen's right to bear arms to defend what they consider to be their own Even if it isn't And in such pressing circumstances you really shouldn't let small details like the absence of an army or indeed the money to finance one get in the way of a righteous fight with all the attendant benefits of out and out nationalism.

10 thoughts on “Jingo

  1. says:

    A homage to the always funny punchline of saber rattling with the danger of an escalating raging war because of instrumentalized patriotism around a small piece of worthless land in this case a tiny island Diplomacy is an art of its own and wait what Vetinari has prepared towards the end it´s a masterpiece of interstate relationship longtime planning Possibly many real life troubles uarrels and close to Mutual Assured Destruction WW3 scenarios went are just going and will go a similar way one better doesn´t start thinking about it Pratchett mixes the economic incentives with patriotism politics and faith showing how the different forces develop their different grades of madness who is influenced by which dogma and how this affects the military capabilities view spoilerAnk Morpork is for instance focusing on trade instead of a strong army while nomadic horse people with overwhelming speed motivated by faith are a different category hide spoiler

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    ‘Why are our people going out there?’ said Mr Boggis of the Thieves’ Guild‘Because they are showing a brisk pioneering spirit and seeking wealth and additional wealth in a new land’ said Lord Vetinari‘What’s in it for the Klatchians?’ said Lord Downey‘Oh they’ve gone out there because they are a bunch of unprincipled opportunists always ready to grab something for nothing’ said Lord Vetinari 'Wazir comes from Smale you see' said Carrot 'And Mr Goriff comes from Elharib and the twocountries only stopped fighting ten years ago Religious differences''Ran out of weapons?' said Vimes'Ran out of rocks sir They ran out of weapons last century'Vimes shook his head 'That always chews me up' he said 'People killing one another just because their gods have suabbled ''Oh they've got the same god sir Apparently it's over a word in their holy book sir The Elharibians say it translates as god and the Smalies say it's man''How can you mix them up?''Well there's only one tiny dot difference in the script you see And some people reckon it's only a bit of fly dirt in any case''Centuries of war because a fly crapped in the wrong place?''It could have been worse' said Carrot 'If it had been slightly to the left the word would have been ‘liuorice''On consideration I would say Jingo is my 2nd favourite book of the Ankh Morportk City Watch series right after Night Watch and my 3rd favourite in the complete Discworld series after Night Watch and Hogfather It was due to this book I decided that I want Sir Samuel Vimes as my literary husband I am truly sorry Mr Darcy but you just have to move on In any case you have Lizzy Bennet and the adoration of the rest of the world to console you and yes we can still be friends and my secret crush for Vetinari started And if I were an educational authority preferably with international competence I would make all the politicians of the world read it and discuss it in class and write essays about it and if they scored higher than C then and only then would I allow them to hold office of any kind But it is wishful thinking as well as longing for Vetinaris and Sam Vimeses in the worldIn Jingo Terry Pratchett is actually waging a bitter and deeply sad one man war against nationalism racism religious fundamentalism territorialism and all kinds of nasty ISMS invented by men and he does it the way he knows best by making you laugh out loud and think And there is no better way to do it in my book anyway

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    If you're into stuff like this you can read the full review911 Jingo by Terry PratchettBack in the day I randomly grabbed a copy of one of Pratchett's books as I bulked up my reading list for the next day when my vacation started I woke up to 911 and the news of the four hijacked planes Shocked and stressed with the news playing in its continual loop in the background I started reading Jingo having no idea what the book was about only that I needed something to distract me I certainly didn't distract as I immediately saw the paralells instead it helped me get through that week a little sanely a big scoop of anger taken out of me I'll always be thankful to Pratchett for that

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    The Complete Discworld RereadI am a Granny Weatherwax guy With no hesitation You ask me which Pratchett story arc is the best and I will yell to the world how awesome the witches of Lancre are But I got a dirty secret; it wasn’t always this way to me Granny is the other woman the one I left my first love for Before I fell in love with Granny I was a city watch man through and through Reading Jingo again has reminded me exactly whyIt is not the best book of the Discworld series not by a long shot Even against the other city watch books it probably sits in well bottom half for sure Behind Guards Guards Feet of Clay and Night Watch definitely Been too long since I read The Fifth Elephant but I remember it being pretty good too So let’s give it the fifth spot and go from there So the fourth or fifth best book in my second favorite subplot of a large series and I still flew through and gobbled up every damn wordA small tactically worthless island appears out of nowhere between Ankh Morpork and Klatch Of course both sides claim it and suddenly peaceful relations turn sour A diplomatic mission from Klatch goes sour and soon enough war appears to be the only result But it should be over uickly right just as soon as those foreign dogs get a taste of cold steel they will run to the hills right?Not the most subtle of book but Pratchett is known to hide a single piccolo in a brass band If you are looking for the in jokes they are always there but there are plenty of big jokes to play around with even if you don’t see them This time we are dealing with national politics war racism and immigration and of course national jingoismThere is an early scene in this book that sums up everything I love about Pratchett and it is only a few pages long But our good friends Colon and Nobby are watching the cities jingoistic sailors prepare for way specifically a sign painter who has missed a letter ‘e’ in the Pride of Ankh Morpork And while they wait for their minor schadenfreude Colon ‘educates’ Nobby on the politics of the situation; strait from the reliable sources of ‘what some bloke told me in a pub’ Nobby sits and pokes holes in every amount of Colon’s non PC argument by agreeing with in in a very telling way It is a conversation that could be held in any bar across the country and it is damn near perfect All tied together at the end by the two sharing a minor victory as the man painting his ship finds the mistake they have been watching forAt this point the City Watch as grown so large that only a few members get any actual development in the book most just stick to their old roles or give a bit of comic relief Carrot is established at this point; certainly not a king but a man people can’t help but follow all the way to a foreign country if need be Sadly Angua may as well be invisible; this is a rare Pratchett outing that forgets to give the female characters anything to do at all Nobbs learns a bit about love and Vimes learns once again that he is bought and sold I had never before noticed that Vimes shows apparent growth in each book of his story arc yet in each is in the exact same place by the end; he just gets a new title or concession thrown his way after the Patrician is done pulling all the right strings well wasn’t the Patrician this time but strings were still pulledNot sure why I don’t rate this one as high as some of the earlier ones Perhaps it is because all the watch is present but few have much to do The relative lack of Angua especially is missed It is very over the top in making its point this time around; the Ankh Morporkians are so stupidly sure of themselves against their ‘uncivilized’ neighbors it should be laughable if history didn’t show people with that misplaced confidence time and again And of course the whole Vimes is in a rut thing is starting to showBut I liked it better than I remembered Humor? Still top notch If you don’t find a zombie catching rats and calling it a foreign disease hilarious you have no soul especially when you learn of the cure And who can forget rival street gangs putting their thumbs in their ears and chanting together a silly little nonsense Good stuff And I have always wondered where you find lowerglyphics what it means when seaweed is wet and why someone would carry around a life sized inflatable donkey I enjoyed Vimes’ new rival 71 Hour Ahmed who has a very uniue way of keeping people off guard I was also fairly impressed about the eventual conclusion to the early stories crime the war itself came later Everyone suspects everyone even themselves and both sides wanted to claim the criminal as their own is a different type of thingNot the best but a solid entry4 Stars

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    War huh yeahWhat is it good forAbsolutely nothingWar huh yeahWhat is it good forAbsolutely nothingSay it again why'all – Edwin StarrGen'rals gathered in their massesJust like witches at black massesEvil minds that plot destructionSorcerer of death's constructionIn the fields the bodies burningAs the war machine keeps turningDeath and hatred to mankindPoisoning their brainwashed mindsOh Lord yeah – Ozzy“Ohhh Great warrior Wars not make one great” – YodaWar on the DiscworldSir Terry Pratchhett’s satire on war and all things warlike – from the martial to the blindly jingoistic was a lot of fun Seems a lost and forgotten island bubbles up from the depths in waters contested between Klatch and Anhk Morpork and both sides are uick to let the fans of discord blow them to extremesMore than just a parody of war Pratchett examines the unhealthy but apparently primal urges of some to lean that way despite all sense otherwise Pratchett’s character Lord Rust sees to embody all that is nonsensical about the “us versus them” populist rhetoric We also get to meet 71 Hour Ahmed one of Pratchett’s most memorable Discworld playersI also very much enjoyed the Lovecraft referencesFor Discworld fans and for Pratchett fans everywhere

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    War War never changesUnless you're talking about Discworld And then history tends to change based on what you had to eat and whether or not a football is involved And then you need to remember the importance of knowing your neighbor's namesYou know this second time reading this was much interesting than the first I simply had a much better time going to war There's nothing like a bit of stabby stabby or running away from a certain man of the watch dressed up like a woman to get the blood movingStill I have to say poor Vimes A dukedom? The poor man

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    It was so much easier to blame it on Them It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us If it was Them then nothing was anyone's fault If it was us what did that make Me? After all I'm one of Us I must be I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them We're always one of Us It's Them that do the bad things Jingo is an anti war book in the guise of an absurdist farcical satireI've been working on getting though the Discworld books since I was sixteen which is now exactly half my life ago Fitting that I am also now halfway through Terry Pratchett's most famous series of books and just now really getting to the ones that start hitting harder Judging from this book a Pratchett book will never be serious but their silliness is and being undercut with a pathos that is riveting an anger that drives the story That combo of laughter and rage is something I've not found anywhere else but a Pratchett book And the the series goes on the bolder he getsThe inciting incident of Jingo is a long lost island floating up from the middle of the Circle sea right smack dab in the middle of Ankh Morpork and Klatch and both nations claim ownership of it This leads of course to war Both nations start plotting and scheming But this isn't a war book like normal war books This is a book that backs ass backwards into war after first lighting everything on fire and then everyone plays football British football not American And I'm being uite literal hereBut really all of this is just an excuse for Captain Sam Vimes to get involved After all if war is a crime then who better to go after the criminals and stop it than a copper? And he brings the whole Watch with him It's not just war that Pratchett sends up here He also takes jabs at racism sexism nationalism Lots of ismsI always have such a hard time writing about these books I don't know why Maybe it's just because they're so chock full of everything Characters one liners elaborately set up satirical gags Or maybe I just personally have a hard time writing about humor It's so ineffableThe only thing here is that I wasn't super in the mood for this type of book when I picked it up I put it down several times to read other books and had a hard time picking it back up but always really enjoyed myself while reading Next time I pick one of these books up next up is The Last Continent a Rincewind book so I've got to be extra in the mood for that I'm gonna make sure I'm in the mood I only have so much Pratchett left

  8. says:

    Full review to come I loved this much the second time round A fine addition to the Night's Watch

  9. says:

    Bingly bingly bingly beep It was time for my monthly dose of DiscworldOnce upon a time I would have sworn that NOTHING could ever surpass one of the witches novels in this series Today I have to confess that might no longer be the caseThis 21st novel initially unbeknownst to me is one of the novels featuring The Watch As such we get Sgt Colon Nobby Angua Captain Carrot Detritus my favourite and CommanderLordSir Vimes and the rest of their weird bunch as well as the entirety of Ankh Morpork including Lord VetinariAn island has risen out of the ocean sporting all the buildings and stuff it originally sank with Soon after the first two fishermen start fighting despite their sons best efforts to stop them about who the island belongs to Ankh Morpork or KlatchThus a Klatchian delegation arrives in the city there is to be a pompous ceremony fights break out yes nothing new in that city but still entertaining a diplomat is killed a certain werewolf gets kidnapped and some people with titles think they need to get the old dusted book of traditions out and start a warYou know those movies or even real life scenes where two neighbours are starting a war across their fence? Yeah like that With the difference that the dwarves are actual people in this one and the tools used include useful but tragically long named inventions Oh and swords The kind that is so big it carries you not the other way aroundNever fear though because no matter how reluctant he is Vimes is not gonna let any crime go unpunished no matter how many diplomats he needs to get rid of firstIn this novel even than in others I know so far the author once again proves why he is known and loved around the world He is a word smith who weaves puns and images into sharp criticism about xenophobia misogyny duty He also nicely points out the difference between the military and police force and all I can say is that many people then and now should rather read this book than any modern rules and regulations Could get some sense between those thick ears Which proves that Pratchett was not only a fantastic writer but also a keen observant He actually saw the world the politics the diplomacy crime and punishment social affairs human psychology hell even the distinction over who is the leader of anything on paper and who REALLY knows what's going on and he knew that you best get them when you are making them laugh first He paints a scene several scenes actually and lets loose a host of characters you either already know and love or will fall in love with after 3 seconds And not just Carrot who even gets the gutter rats to do as they are told I mean I almost lost it when view spoilerthat bloody dis organiser lost the correct timeline was therefore spiralling and was eventually no longer with Vimes but met Death hide spoiler

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    English | Español más abajo This is the Spanish edition of Jingo I'll try to write a review soon I haven't had much time lately and I have an awful lot of pending reviews ¬¬ In short go read it every single Terry Pratchett book is worth your money and time; especially this one since it's one of the best books in the Discworld series Even though each novel can be read as a standalone book It's highly recommended to read the previous books of the Guards series to get to know the background of some characters Podés encontrar esta y otras reseñas en mi blog¡Voto a Bríos Es el cuarto libro de la saga de los Guardias mi saga favorita dentro de la locura ue es Mundodisco y en él se empieza a notar el progreso de la guardia de Ankh Morpork en comparación con el primer libro Ya no está compuesta únicamente por el capitán Vimes Colon y Nobby sino ue ahora es una verdadera fuerza integrada por miembros de todas las variedades de seres ue habitan la ciudad más poblada de Mundodisco golems trolls enanos hombres lobo gárgolas e incluso zombies Esta enorme variedad de personajes le sirve a Pratchett para hacer lo ue se le da mejor y lo ue más disfruto de sus novelas criticar los aspectos más ridículos de las diferentes culturas y religiones creando estereotipos absurdos pero a la vez sumamente entretenidos de leer No considero ofensivas estas burlas sino ue por el contrario me parecen una forma bastante inteligente de criticar nuestra realidad sirviéndose de criaturas fantásticas; ese aspecto es lo ue hace ue Mundodisco sea una saga única diferente a cualuier historia de fantasía ue vas a encontrar Los guardias son mis personajes favoritos justamente porue reflejan la variedad de culturas y costumbres ue existen en el mundo y como cuando se dejan estas diferencias de lado los seres humanos y los no tan humanos son capaces de alcanzar grandes cosas Volviendo a lo ue es la trama la misma cobra una mayor dimensión cuando se investiga un poco busué todo en Google tremenda investigación ? al respecto Para escribir esta novela Pratchett se basó en un incidente ocurrido en 1830 en el cual una isla emergió en el Mar Mediterráneo y desató un conflicto entre Gran Bretaña y otros países de la zona para ver uién anexaba la isla a su territorio A partir de esta premisa el autor escribe una graciosa historia ue se burla de las estúpidas razones por las cuales se producen las guerras como en este caso un pedazo de tierra inútil en todo sentido En esta novela Pratchett también se burla del nacionalismo extremo El título de la novela en inglés es Jingo el cual es una abreviación de jingoísmo una idea de imperialismo basada en la expansión violenta sobre otras naciones ue surgió en Inglaterra a finales de la era victoriana Es una filosofía extremadamente racista e intolerante ue en la novela es plasmada de manera brillante poniendo de un lado a Klatch ue se asemeja a un país árabe —con todas sus costumbres ue a nosotros nos resultan aberrantes— y por el otro a Ankh Morpork ue vendría a representar la civilización occidental —¿Hace falta una excusa para ir a la guerra? —dijo Nobby— O sea ¿para uién? ¿No vale con ue vayas y digas «Tú tienes montones de dinero y tierras pero yo tengo una espada muy grande así ue ya estás dándome lo mío chop chop»? Es lo ue yo diría —dijo el cabo Nobbs estratega militar— Y ni siuiera lo diría hasta después de atacar—Ah pero eso es porue no sabes nada de política —dijo Colon Lo ue me parece brillante de los libros de Mundodisco es ue logra tocar todos estos temas sin hacerlo de forma aburrida y repartiendo para todos lados en los libros de Pratchett vas a encontrar críticas y burlas hacia absolutamente todos los aspectos de nuestra vida cotidiana; a veces de forma bastante clara como ocurre en esta novela y otras veces de forma más sutil a través de peueñas referencias y guiños a diferentes elementos de la cultura popularEn fin como siempre me pasa al escribir acerca de un libro de Mundodisco me resulta imposible calificarlo porue adoro esta saga Considero ue son libros excelentes y muy recomendables para todo el mundo sean o no fanáticos de las novelas de fantasía Por supuesto ue hay algunos libros ue no son tan graciosos como otros e incluso hay algunos bastante flojos pero es indudable ue cada novela de Mundodisco es como dice Neil Gaiman un peueño milagro y rara vez la vas a pasar mal leyendo a Pratchett ¡Voto a Bríos es de los mejores libros ue he leído hasta el momento dentro de esta enorme y divertidísima saga A pesar de ue cada libro de Mundodisco se puede leer de manera independiente en este caso recomiendo leer por lo menos los tres libros anteriores de la saga de los guardias para poder apreciar cómo evolucionan los personajes Para conocer los posibles órdenes de lectura de Mundodisco o cuáles libros recomiendo leer para comenzar la saga podés consultar esta sección del blog

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